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Our three point strategy to defeat the #HST in BC

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1. The Initiative Petition: The first phase of our strategy is to successfully complete the first Citizen Initiative in BC (and Canadian) history by obtaining the required signatures of 10% of registered voters in every riding.

Once that is completed, the government has two options – vote on the legislation proposed by us (The HST Extinguishment Act) or:

Conduct a province wide referendum (Initiative Vote) on the question of extinguishing the HST in BC.

If the government tries to use its majority to vote down the successful initiative petition legislation, we will conduct phase 2 of our plan:

2. Recall: Recall can only be conducted 18 months after an election, which brings us to November 2010. If MLAs vote against the wishes of their constituents as expressed in the petition, we will target them for Recalls.

A Recall requires 40% of registered voters to sign a Recall petition. Once the signatures are complete, the MLA is automatically recalled. There is no other step required.

By the time we are finished the petition, we will have an army of volunteers (we already have over 5,000) that we can mobilize in specific ridings to effect Recalls. Some have suggested we may onyl need to Recall the premier himself to make our point.

3. Legal Challenge: The third component of our strategy may involve a legal challenge to the HST. Several lawyers have contacted us to say that they believe the HST contravenes both the Constitution Act 1867, which gives exclusive authority for direct taxation within the provinces for the raising of a provincial revnue to the provincial Legislatures only.

The HST may also contravene the Excise Tax Act which forbids the federal government from implementing an “unequal” tax within the provinces. Since the HST is a different rate in each province (ie: 12% in BC, 15% in Nova Scotia, 13% in Ontario) it may also contravene the Excise Tax Act.

A legal challenge to the HST would be accompanied by an application for an injunction to stop the tax until the court can determine its legality.

Lawyers who have reviewed the subject believe an injunction may be viewed favourably by the courts. The prospect of the provincial government proceeding with an “illegal” tax in BC for the two years it could take to hear the case would have them collecting over $16 billion in HST during that time. If the tax were found to be illegal, it would bankrupt the treasury to repay it all.

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Comment by Fred
2010-04-10 19:24:10

Recall SCAMpbell!

Stop the HST!

Go BC Go!
Go BC GO!

The HST is the worst thing that could happen to BC, especially for us middle class self employed individuals.

 
Comment by E. Willmott
2010-04-13 13:37:53

This tax is going to break a lot of people. Will there be a mass exodus to Alberta? What would happen if business didn’t collect it and we didn’t pay it?

 
Comment by Darryl Crampton
2010-04-16 13:23:42

“Anything for a Buck” Campbell should be taken out to the woodshed…How much does he think the B.C. citizens can carry, before he breaks our back…??? If it came outta his wallet, he might reconsider…

 
Comment by Annie J
2010-04-16 22:40:25

We need to fight this tax tooth and nail, on so many levels! Provincial sales tax is just that PROVINCIAL! If the feds get their grimey paws on it, god help us! We will never again be in control of sales tax. And you know what, the liberals lied to us – what has happened to honour and civility? Finally, show me where this tax is going to be revenue neutral – do I pay tax now on massage? No! Do I pay PST now on a coffee? NO! STAND UP PEOPLE AND BE COUNTED!!!

 
Comment by Sandra Thompson
2010-04-17 08:20:05

It is painful to live in a democracy which doesn’t function as one. Just remember, Hitler was democratically elected! Don’t let
Gordon Campbell and his buddy, Stephen Harper hijack the democratic processes. They are both supposed to be answerable to the people.

 
Comment by Darshan Banga
2010-04-18 19:18:40

I will appreciate if the deaf government of BC starts listening. We hate HST and so we will push you out of power.

 
Comment by John Grogan
2010-04-22 20:17:47

HST = HUMAN Sales Tax
This in effect makes second class citizens of us all, and the corporate exporters an elite class. Welcome to the New Feudalism. The Corporations (nee Lords) make serfs (nee Diggers) of the lot of us.

Windfall for the transnational inc.

All the rights and none of the responsibilities. REVOKE the corporate charters of the worst 10%. (IMHO)

 
Comment by Andrea
2010-04-24 09:42:21

Campbell and Hansen have to be stopped, They are arrogant self serving pocket picking scum who will not lsited to the tax payers of BC. They don’t care because they have already lined their own pockets and once recalled and kicked out of office they will live in luxury at our expense.
Recalls now. Get them out.

 
Comment by Andrea
2010-04-24 09:45:53

Campbell and Hansen have to be stopped, They are arrogant, Self serving pocket picking scum who will not listen to the taxpayers of BC. They don’t care because they have already lined their own pockets and once recalled and kicked out of office they will live in luxury at our expense.
Recalls now.
Get them out

 
Comment by Toni
2010-04-24 09:53:11

Now that Randy White has come out of retirement and is supporting the BC Conservative party maybe they can become a force and an alternative to the NDP where Carol James should have retired long ago.
Any alternative to Campbell and Hansen would be a godsend. Even the Hells Angeles would be better than the lying arrogant thieving bunch in power right now.

Comment by Jodi Birston
2010-07-02 20:38:12

Yes! The conservative party needs a strong leader and the NDP need to get rid of Carol James! Give us better options than the liberals!!

 
Comment by Nick
2010-07-09 10:30:53

My thoughts EXACTLY!

 
 
Comment by Andrea
2010-04-24 09:59:58

These flyers the Fiberals are having printed and distributed are going to be paid for by the taxpayer. I wrote and asked Campbell, Hansen and Coell but not one of them had the decency to respond to my question on this matter. Coell! Your days are numbered just like your two heros. Campbell and Hansen.
Arrogant.
Recall them all and kick them out with no severence and no pension. Let them struggle to make ends meet like most of the citizens of BC do.

 
Comment by Andrea
2010-04-24 10:06:20

I would say that useless Coell will be losing his seat as everyone on the Gulf Islands are in the same frame of mind and would love to get rid of him and his cronys.

 
Comment by B J Van Eldik
2010-04-24 16:04:14

Our politicians have a reputation of ignoring petitions, opinion polls and election promises. Remember Rene Levesque’s cry: “Vee vill scrap ze GST”? In the end our only option may well be civil disobedience, i.e. REFUSE to pay the tax, REFUSE to collect it, and REFUSE to submit it. If people only dared to use the power they really have!
Yes, we are law abiding citizens and we hope this will never become necessary but..
Enough is enough!

 
Comment by Karen
2010-04-24 20:06:20

Andrea, I totally agree with you. We need to recall or at the very least defeat this complacent individual in the next election.

 
Comment by keith
2010-04-27 13:24:51

its amazing that we are being forced to accept this tax in bc that will funnel funds directly to ontario, to make it worse they are giving everyone in ontario $1000.00 to accept it.

 
Comment by Julie
2010-04-29 16:16:25

I read. Hansen has introduced the HST, to the House of Commons. A province can not overrule anything in the Federal House, true or not? The Federal M.P’s are also, having a terrible time dealing with Harper, his being stubborn, is complicating, absolutely everything. The M.P’s are saying, Harper is fascist. This country is falling apart. Campbell and Hansen, deceived, lied, used dirty tactics, to get Campbell re-elected, and they have no idea, how to be honest. Watching Hansen in the legislature, is enough to turn your stomach. He is, really, totally incapable of giving an honest, straight answer. He goes around and around and around, and he just can’t be honest. I am mystified, why the NDP don’t put forward, a vote of no confidence. There are communities setting up, an underground system, as well as, bartering. The combination of the, insane HST and the budget, is going to force many people, to become homeless. We are growing enough food to feed these people, because, they have nothing left.

Comment by Nick
2010-07-09 10:54:58

Julie, did you also know that our feds use PRIVATE BANKS to print our money? Instead of the Bank of Canada? Over 95% of our taxes goes to pay the $170,000,000+ per day compound interest payments! See the Canadian Action Party website. THE ONLY REASON we pay this is money to Britain, is because our government CHOOSES to do so. BANKING has destroyed THE WORLD. I agree with others above, that civil disobedience is the key. The feds are not even supposed to be collecting taxes anyways – they are not supposed to be in the tax collection business at all! Therefore, THIS CREATES A LITTLE KNOWN LOOP-HOLE that you DO NOT have to pay tax. All you need is a little courage! More info at dollarpages.org We must make BANKING the ONLY ISSUE in the next election! By default, anybody who is willing to kick the feds out, is FOR THE PEOPLE! Since the country opperates on about 5% off what it collects, and the rest goes to Britain, then a good leader who kicks them (bankers) out, can charge a tiny (income) tax and still have more than TWICE THE MONEY available to be used for Canada, not to pay interest! dollarpages.org also has some other great articles on why the “Fiberals” behave the way they do. It is a RARE DOCUMENT that is a script of what is going on today and how this came about.

 
 
Comment by Rob
2010-05-02 09:23:13

My wife and I have 4 kids, 2 teens and 2 children. We live right on the limit financially. We have run the math over and over again. Once the HST comes in, we will be paying about $140 more per month in tax.
It might seem like nothing to you wealthier folks out there…but that increase in tax means we have to eliminate a sport for our kids.
I am having a hard time explaining to them why their sporting activities will end in July.

 
Comment by Yolanda
2010-05-04 12:59:11

Hi. I am a single parent of three boys (15, 12 and 9) and work 2 jobs and run a small food business in order to make ends meat.

Every-time I go shopping or take my kids out, and buy, my stomach shrinks with the percentage of tax we pay. Yet I pay it gladly since I can see all the benefits of leaving in such a great peaceful country.

However, when is it enough. I pay rent, try to reduce my childcare expenses and live in a tight budget; my kids recreational activities and some clothing is paid by their grandparents (thanks God for them) and I do not own any assets.

The only thing that keeps me going is believing that one day will be able to own a place or gain some more economic security; yet just as I am feeling closer to my goal a new tax emerges, or some more cuts to our school system, our daycare programs, etc. happens.

Really, no wonder some of us just give up all together about working as much as we can, or feeling unappreciated by our ‘political leaders and representatives,’ or ‘our government.’

Please, what other steps can we take to stop this HST and if not stop it, how can we revert it… and motivate others with this goal.

By the way the number of single parents in Canada is almost par with the number of couples raising families. This leads to one potential conclusion, just like me, there are many, many, many families Canadians suffering with this tax to the max government policy we have been carrying for far too long.

I say “no more.”

Thank you,
Yolanda

 
Comment by Sherry
2010-05-05 09:55:31

It is clear the petition will succeed and we have to remember not to become demoralized if the Liberals ignore us anyway. In fact, based on their usual arrogance, they are likely to just use their majority. We need to keep the momentum and start those recalls in November. We can’t become complacent. Hopefully, the Liberals will listen, but if they don’t, we will have to work that much harder to get them out!

 
Comment by Avtar
2010-05-10 09:01:34

We need to have a rally to stop this monstrosity from happening. How can we say we live in a democracy, how can we say Canada is better then a dictatorship when what we really have is an elected dictatorship. These politician rats get elected and then give handouts to the people who were donating to their campaigns. I for one will not ever vote for Bill Vanderzalm, but what he is saying is right. This government forced this tax upon us and said “hey its already passed you cant do nothing about it” like a bunch of no good bullys. IF YOU WANT TO LIVE FREE, STAND UP AND LET YOUR VOICE BE HEARD. NOW IS THE TIME PEOPLE WAKE UP, THIS IS NOT JUST ABOUT THE TAX ANYMORE, ITS ABOUT OUR FREEDOM AND OUR LEGAL RIGHTS. OUR GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE TAKING ORDERS FROM US NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND!!!!

Comment by Nick
2010-07-09 10:58:52

Why would you say that you would not ever vote for Bill? Is it because there was no income taxwhen he was around? Or is it because or economy was the best in North America, with Bill at the helm? My friend, stop watching the boob tube, and do a little research. Start at dollarpages.org

 
 
Comment by Avtar
2010-05-10 09:05:26

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, will make violent revolution inevitable” – John F. Kennedy

 
Comment by Julie
2010-05-10 19:35:31

Heat costs 6% more. Hydro, up in increments to 33%. Food costs, have gone up 27%. Our “new” carbon tax, 4.45. So trucking company’s, upped their freight rates to compensate. Food costs have gone up, yet again. Everything trucked in, has gone up in price. Just before summer vacation, gas prices skyrocket, never fails. Those budget tax hikes, are unreasonable. Then, your phone and cable, get hit with the HST. The HST, has a very long arm. Every necessary service, you need to run your home, is taxed. All of those taxes, are going to cost, $2,400 more per year. Rents have gone up. Condo fees, up. Mobile home pads went up. Campground fees raised. There is very little, that have escaped taxing. So people like Yolanda, trying to make ends meet and supporting her children, on $8.00 per hour, are going to be in dire trouble. So, that makes Campbell and Hansen, probably the, lowest characters of governing officials, in the history of this province. All of this really proves, BC children living in poverty, and Campbell and Hansen, just give them the finger. Campbell, Hansen and the BC Liberal government, are the scum of the earth. How many Liberal ministers, are under investigation now? DUI’s, corruption, lies, deceit, broken promises, thieves, knowingly allowing BC people, to breathe poison air. Much more could be added, however, the topic of the BC Liberals misdeeds, could go on forever.

 
Comment by Gloria
2010-05-11 11:36:53

Hansen’s budget says, Home heat, is 6% more. Hydro, goes up in increments 33%. Our “new” carbon taxes are 4.45, so, gasoline has gone up. Gas prices, usually go up, just before summer vacation. Phone and Cable, have the HST. Food costs, have gone up 27%, in the past year. Pretty much everything you need, in your daily expenses to run your home, has been taxed. And the HST, has a very long arm, grabbing everywhere. There will be thousands of people, crushed, by the tax overload. I read, it will cost $2,400 more a year, to cope with all of those taxes. It’s been said, the recession is over, so why, all of these unreasonable taxes?

 
Comment by Robert Nyirfa
2010-05-12 07:44:25

The results to date are more than encouraging, there are a few trouble spots and it is logical to assume that the liberals will do everything they can to stifle the petition sighning in those areas. I.E. Vancouver point grey, and the downtown ridings. They only have to make ONE riding fail in order to nulify the petition.
We should be gearing up to blitz those ridings with as many canvasers as possible, from all over the lower mainland. It would be a shame to have gotten so far only to fail simply because we have become confident that some one else will pick up the slack in those ridings. If anyone has any connections in those ridings where we could set up locations for signing please contact the captains and offer whatever help you may be able to give.

 
Comment by GUENTER RIEGER
2010-05-12 12:52:42

I agree with you 100% with Avatr’s post by remindung everyone of a statement made by John F. Kennedy
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, will make violent revolution inevitable”
I don’t understand why the BC Liberals want the bring down British Columbia. However, we have to pay now for the mismanagement of the BC Liberals

 
Comment by geffen
2010-05-13 14:00:47

Its remarkable that fellow BCrs have the guts to do what we are doing – And I was beginning to think democracy was just an old word. So lets boycott every big business & politician who prefers this dictatorship to freedom! And remember the conservaliberals in ottawa will make themselves megabillions with the Horrific Sales Tax too…!

 
Comment by Jonny
2010-05-20 23:03:34

Since its incarnation in 1995 the BC recall process has never succeeded. In mid November 2010 there will likely be a submission to elections BC to remove Gordon Campbell. Soon after the Chief Electoral Officer must validate the petition and by 60 days after that at least 15684 signatures (40%) of registered voters are required to force an election in Vancouver Point Grey.

If you don’t like Gordon Campbell and you live in Point Grey you must
REGISTER TO VOTE ! ( Be sure you friends and neighbors register too)
It will send a very strong message to other politicians that the first one recalled was premier. People must take back democracy and send a message to the legislature.

It is up to the people of Point Grey to RECALL Gordon Campbell but any registered BC voter can gather signatures – let the masses form.

Interesting stats on Point Grey riding (2006 census):
39210 people over 18 years old in Point Grey
Largest age demographic is Men aged 20-44 (approximately 50%)
15684 (40%) = signatures required amount to force an election.
Year 2005 Household incomes over $80K after tax :
Point Grey 41.5%. BC Average 28.1%

http://www.elections.bc.ca/docs/guidebooks/865.pdf

http://www.elections.bc.ca/docs/rpt/rclrpt03.pdf

http://www.bcstats.gov.bc.ca/data/cen06/profiles/peds/Vancouver-Point%20Grey_BC.pdf

 
Comment by NDB
2010-05-22 19:06:44

Winning this fight will be better than canada winning gold in mens hockey.

PersonallY i think we should recall Gordon even if the HST get voted down.

 
Comment by Ian Anderson
2010-05-26 12:01:47

Well along with the Holy S–t Tax my property taxes went up almost $250. HST is a tax grab. Get rid of Campbell. He has broken the law twice now. How can we as British Columbians allow a criminal to run our province.

 
Comment by Ifear Reprisal
2010-06-03 11:03:37

My biggest concern is how such a universally hated premier won so easily in the last election. I suspect he bought it, and that really angers me. Big business + Government = Fascism. Look it up.

 
Comment by Ted
2010-06-11 18:48:57

Let’s keep focused on the HST since it is uniting BC residents like never before. So follow the strategy and remember this is a “runaway government” matter, not an NDP issue (even though they support it).

 
Comment by Greg Fortes
2010-06-12 11:15:16

I really hope this initiative succeeds! The HST is nothing but a tax-grab.. I cannot see how increasing the taxes we pay on things will ever HELP the people living in BC. It may help businesses to some degree, but we all know it won’t help the majority.

Keep up the good fight!
Greg

 
Comment by Dave Noble
2010-06-12 21:05:17

I cannot for the life of me understand why a man of Campbells intelligent past as a drunk, and with so many cut backs since he was elected, and the amount of lies he has submitted to the people would not just drop his head in shame and at least try to save some kind of legacy that would not brand him as a dictator Premier, sometime you wonder why, when the power to be exists, why the politicians keep digging themselves in deeper and deeper, Gordon Campbell the people of BC are not as dumb as you think they are, the sooner you are recalled the better, you are the worst Premier I have run across in my 72 years.

 
Comment by Opus
2010-06-13 23:20:37

Remember, Hitler was also elected into office.

 
Comment by Doug
2010-06-14 02:10:24

I am a right of centre voter, but I have refuse to vote for the Campbell Lieberals, first time because of their name, and the last time, because they have spent the last ten years destroying wonderful WAC Bennett legacy of: BC Ferries, BC Hydro, and BC Rail. His Lieberals have destroyed much of what was so special about B.C. Whether the HST is good or bad overall for B.C. is not the point. The point is that the HST was like so many of the devious policies, it was contrary to what we were led to believe, and the enormous tax burden has in one step been shifted from business to the people. His Government has allowed or been instrumental in the destruction of our small fishing communities, and our entire fishery.

 
Comment by Gloria
2010-06-14 09:37:53

Campbell is a dictator, dictators are totally lawless, and they honor nothing. Lying, cheating, deceiving, corruption, theft, arrogance,criminal charges, corrupt Ministers, every vile name in the book, fits the BC Liberals to a tee. Decent people, don’t lie, deceive and cheat to win. However, that isn’t beneath, Campbell, Hansen and the BC Liberals, dignity. They have no right to be in office, through their, dirty tactics. They have brought this province, to utter financial ruin. Now they are going to pollute, the rest of BC, that is left, and the destruction will then be absolute. We will be 50 years, cleaning up, Campbell, Hansen and the BC Liberals mess. Campbell and Hansen, have to scurry around like rats, to plug all the holes, where the truth may leak out. Hansen threw a tantrum, because, Harry Nuefeld, from Elections BC, had to follow the law, and deny Hansen to send out his stupid pamphlet. Harry Nuefeld, was then told, by the Speaker of the House, he would not be reappointed. They just don’t seem to get it. Everything, Campbell, Hansen and, the BC Liberals say, is automatically deemed a lie.

 
Comment by Milan
2010-06-14 14:35:55

What is going to happen after HST is repealed? I believe that one way or another arrogant Campbell gets a good kick in his butt.

But who is going to pay for that army of useless, lazy, unionized government workers, how do we pay for their gold plated pensions and secured salaries?

When I was submitting my passport application is Surrey, the first thing before I could ever draw my number and wait for my turn I had to go downstairs and have my application put into plastic folder by government clerk and there were 3 of them doing this highly important and critical job.

May be we should not fight against HST, or else some of our highly important and hard to replace fellow citizens loose their jobs.

 
Comment by Lil
2010-06-22 15:54:01

The budget and the HST, were very poorly planned. Thousands of BC families, seniors and low income people, will not have enough to live on. 70% of citizens wages, will go to the budget taxes, the HST, and, Federal and Provincial income tax. Prices have shot up in every sector, such as, food, clothing, insurances, to name a few. BC citizens, are literally being taxed out of their homes. The rise in homeless seniors, has shot up. When the swing of the budget and the HST really get going, the number of the homeless, is going to be horrendous. Children in poverty, will take another hit. Single mothers can’t even feed their children now, with the $8.00 per hour minimum wage. Campbell and Hansen, have made it, abundantly clear, they have no intention, of alleviating, the children living in poverty, nor increasing the minimum wage. Campbell has worked tirelessly for 9 years, to devalue jobs and wages, while giving himself a 53% salary hike, and, a pension of $2 million per year pension, isn’t too shabby either. His ministers, got a 29% increase, as well. We BC people, are forced to live in a dictatorship, while Campbell, Hansen and the BC Liberals, steal the people blind. This province is, in utter ruin, because of them. How much more corruption are the people, going to have to pay for?

 
Comment by Dan James
2010-06-28 18:31:36

Our government is supposed to work FOR the people and not against the people. We voted these people in to do the job right and if we see the job not being right it is our duty to remove them and get the right people for the job! Canadian are quite accepting people and this is one time where we all need to stand our ground and FIGHT for our future! Let’s stand up BC! do it for ourself but also for our childrens future! Gordon Campbell’s days should be over!

 
Comment by Krasto
2010-06-29 17:46:41

Get Gordon Campbell out of this province he is acting like Charles the first!!!! Charles the first caused many illegal taxes!! I can nickname Gordon Campbell the modern Charles the first and his the personality is the same as Charles the first.

 
Comment by Krasto
2010-06-29 17:47:46

Kept it up Bill!!!

 
Comment by james
2010-07-01 15:13:31

We need to start organizing the recall campaign now. We also need a new political party in BC to finally start representing THE PEOPLE! C’mon Bill, there haven’t been any good third party alternatives in this province in YEARS and you know it! You and WAC Jr were the last great premiers we ever had, followed by nothing but miscreants and thugs after you. No way in hell I’ll vote liberal, and I can’t vote NDP (Obviously).

Ride the wave, Bill!! Your people are calling!!

 
Comment by The Big Red Machine
2010-07-02 10:52:16

* RECALL CAMPBELL NOW!!!!!!!,
* RECALL CAMPBELL NOW!!!!!!!,
* RECALL CAMPBELL NOW!!!!!!!,
* RECALL CAMPBELL NOW!!!!!!!,
* RECALL CAMPBELL NOW!!!!!!!,
* RECALL CAMPBELL NOW!!!!!!!,
* RECALL CAMPBELL NOW!!!!!!!

 
Comment by Bev Mcgee
2010-07-02 12:00:33

A decent and intelligent elected ruler listens to the peasants the one that fails to, doesnt belong in politics he belongs in jail perhaps back in Hawaii!!!!
The people have spoken kick his corporate sponsored ass all the way to Hastings st. where he should face those in poverty without a roof over their heads… ALL in the name of political gain, money and greed.
Sick of liars, thieves and puppets working for the multi-nationals controllers and having no conscience or heart…Karma is a bitch you will all get what you deserve……Bev

 
Comment by Jodi Birston
2010-07-02 20:36:51

I currently have no disposable income and now I will have nothing left over. I am a mom who hasn’t the income to even save for retirement. Now this. When I am old I’ll be that lady eating cat food and living off social assistance. I couldn’t be more disappointed in being from British columbia right now. I work soooo hard to get ahead only to have the rug pulled out from under me. Once my mother has passed on I am moving to Alberta.

 
Comment by Andy Janssen
2010-07-05 22:29:00

I am NOT a fan of any tax, however, I would rather see a consumption tax than an income tax.
Taxing INCOME keeps people from being productive. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve heard people say “I can’t work overtime – the government will take it all anyway.”
If we locked in a sales tax, say 15% and repealed both federal and provintial income tax, we’d have a much fairer system.

Comment by Dave
2010-07-07 19:40:58

I don’t necessarily disagree with you, but do you really think replacing one tax with another tax – with no net gain to the Government would EVER happen in this Province, or country for that matter? Fact is they lied, and it’s on MP3- listen between the 14 and 16 minute marks: http://emedia.cknw.com/Podcasts/1116/Bill_Good_Show_-_Thur_Aug_13_-_Hour_3.mp3

 
 
Comment by Chris Bullard
2010-07-06 21:51:56

Below is the email correspondence I’ve been having with the BC Chamber of Commerce concerning their challenge to the petition. Everyone please write a note of protest to them. Below is the correspondence:
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From: chrisbullard@hotmail.com
To: jwinter@bcchamber.org
CC: bccc@bcchamber.org; jgarson@bcchamber.org; rcastleden@bcchamber.org; ddouglas@bcchamber.org; nwells@bcchamber.org; ehill@bcchamber.org
Subject: RE: BC Chamber of Commerce’s undemocratic legal challenge to the Ant-HST initiative will have financial repercussions for your members.
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 04:24:48 +0000

Mr. Winter,

I have a crystal clear understanding of the matter.

After reading your reply and reviewing the EXTINGUISHMENT ACT I realize that you and The BC Chamber of Commerce are violating both the intent and the spirit of the petition through your court challenge of it.

You are trying through legal manipulation to usurp the will of the British Columbia electorate. Contrary to your statement below that is undemocratic, unethical and amoral. In your heart you know this is true, if you don’t you shouldn’t be in business.

I can only conclude from your reply below that the members of your organization have limited insight into any of its BC customer’s wishes and values, which shows a complete lack of understanding of a basic business principle. That principle is something that you and your organization should be very concerned about.

In business it takes decades to build an honorable ethical reputation, one your customers trust and only minutes to destroy it. You’d do well to remember that, because you and members of your organization are on the road of the latter.

Chris Bullard
British Columbia Citizen.

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Subject: Re: BC Chamber of Commerce’s undemocratic legal challenge to the Ant-HST initiative will have financial repercussions for your members.
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 13:19:49 -0700
From: Jwinter@bcchamber.org
To: chrisbullard@hotmail.com

Mr. Bullard,

Thank you for your note. I’d like to point out that the papers filed with the court seek clarity of the EXTINGUISHMENT ACT. This is the document attached to the petition. There is no issue with the petition and no attack on democratic rights as you have suggested. We are simply seeking clarity from the courts that this draft Act which calls upon the Province to extinguish Federal legislation, is capable of achieving that goal. We don’t think this is constitutional and we want the courts to decide. If this matter proceeds to a referendum in its present form, we will have spent $40 million unnecessarily.

I would think that all those folks who signed the petition would appreciate knowing that the Draft Act is legal or not.

I hope this helps your understanding of the matter.

John Winter
BC Chamber of Commerce

—– Original Message —–
From: Chris Bullard
To: Erica Hill; John Winter; Jon Garson; Roslyn Castleden; Denise Douglas; Neal Wells; Erica Hill
Sent: Thu Jul 01 12:21:50 2010
Subject: BC Chamber of Commerce’s undemocratic legal challenge to the Ant-HST initiative will have financial repercussions for your members.

Dear Sir or Madame,

Because of the BC Chamber of Commerce’s challenge to the legality of the Anti-HST petition I will no longer be patronizing any of the businesses that belong to your organization and will be urging other British Columbians to do likewise.

With this challenge you have proven your organization to be anti-democratic, the people of British Columbia, which are your customers, have spoken and yet your organization has chosen to side against them.

As example of how severe the repercussions can be to your members I remind you of the events that happened to the multi-millionaire Peter Pocklington after he traded Wayne Gretzky to the LA Kings… he went bankrupt because he was so disliked that no-one in Alberta would patronize his businesses.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Pocklington

Also remember what happened to the Conservative Party in Ottawa after they brought in the GST, they were decimated and took 20 years to recover from it! Can your member’s businesses survive that long without anyone purchasing their products or services? Will your organization survive it? Is this the legacy you want for your membership?

My final questions to you as leaders of the BC Chamber of Commerce are does every member agree with your actions and do they want the dues that are paid to this organization used to challenge the legality of this petition?

Finally if your legal challenge succeeds in defeating this democratic petition, there will be a massive financial backlash by the people of British Columbia against your organization and its members. I strongly urge the BC Chamber of Commerce to drop its challenge to the Ant-HST petition or suffer the negative financial consequences of its actions upon its members.

Yours Sincerely,

Chris Bullard

 
Comment by Dave
2010-07-07 19:43:13

Hansen caught lying on CKNW re: HST “not being on the radar” before the election. Listen between the 14 and 16 minute marks: http://emedia.cknw.com/Podcasts/1116/Bill_Good_Show_-_Thur_Aug_13_-_Hour_3.mp3

Give us a centrist party now!!! Someone to actually vote FOR.

 
Comment by ELIZABETH mILLAR
2010-07-24 11:34:51

I so agree with your comments regarding the lining of their pockets, their ruthless aggressive hounding of those who oppose. Also they appear to be using crown corportaions and business supporters in a blatant political way. I have written my MPP Mr. Hogg who will not reply to my e mail unless he can phone me!!! Why not just reply tomy e mail. Your assistant write for my phone number but she cannot type his reply???? Really
My Mp Mr. Heibert wants to reply but he too needs to have my address etc. I just ask him if as my member of parliament for this area what he could do to protect me, and his family from illegal acts by thisgovernment and also what he can do to help us protect democaracy. I also ask him where he stood on the HST. Sent e mail twice and still waiting.

 
Comment by ELIZABETH mILLAR
2010-07-24 12:06:19

this past year we have spent close to $7,000, on treatmaents at a naturopathic doctor. Not one iota covered by medicare. Now I have to pay 12% tax instead if 5% . As a result we , meaning my husband and I are off five medications some of which we have used for over about 30 years. this saves our medicare hundreds of dollars each year. That isn’t enough. How can any of these politicians sleep at night let alone look at themselves in the mirror?
the future? Just look what happened in Nova scotia. HST taxes raised to I believe 15%
No matter how much you give , it is never enough.

 
Comment by vance garbowski
2010-07-30 15:01:36

Let’s put a box on the next ballot that says none of the above and see haow many people then vote. How about putting all MLA’s at $8.00/hr and take away their pensions.
Please knock these boobs out of office and show them that outright liars should not be in power. Thanx.

 
Comment by Warren
2010-08-09 13:56:46

OK, I’m guilty… I helped Gordo get elected years ago.

I had no idea what would happen, but now I’ll be pleased to be part of the team to throw Gordo out on his ear.

Democracy, not lying politicians, rules.

 
Comment by RosanneSutherland
2010-08-12 16:39:07

Comment by R.Sutherland

STOP HST.Recall all MLAs

Yes GO BC
WE are strong,now it is more than just the HST.

BC,we must defeat the government,this is the chance of a lifetime.
Lets not let them get away with dictating to us

 
Comment by Tamara
2010-08-13 14:44:23

Did anyone realize that Colin Hansen said on a television forum that HST was not going to be charged on your hydro bill? Well guess what insult to injury BC Hydro is charging HST tax for the federal government so I was told by BC Hydro representative. Figure that one out?

 
Comment by Tamara
2010-08-13 14:47:19

Guess what folks you are paying HST on your BC Hydro bill. When I questioned a BC Hydro representative they claimed it is not the provincial HST but the federal portion of the HST. Can anyone figure out why we would pay federal HST on British Columbia Hydro?????? I would love to know

 
Comment by Randall Shoop
2010-08-15 09:24:43

Hansen is one of the most arrogant people that I have ever had the displeasure of having to do business with. He and Gordon are a pox and a plague on this province.

 
Comment by Randall Shoop
2010-08-15 09:28:27

Hansen your arrogance and lies are unbelievable. Gordo….. you are beneath comment.

 
Comment by Randall Shoop
2010-08-15 09:30:38

Hansen your arrogance is above your position. Who do you think you are? What do you think you are? Where do you think you are? Here is a clue … you where voted in by your peers to serve your peers.

 
Comment by Michael Vann
2010-08-15 18:46:43

Can someone please supply a list of the “big businesses” fighting the petition in court?

There is a groundswell to boycott them and their products, showing the people still have a voice.

 
Comment by Toni Graeme
2010-08-20 14:40:47

Regarding Hydro tax charges, on my current bill they have charged only 5% GST so it seems to be no problem.

On with the challenge!

 
Comment by Glen Grant
2010-08-20 18:38:24

what i want to know is Bill Vander Zalm going to run for Premier we desperatley need a viable alternative i believe he is it

 
Comment by Juan Castillo
2010-08-21 19:07:02

If you get a list please post it here or somewhere we can see it, My household for sure will do our best to boycot this businesses.
Thanks

 
Comment by Earl_James
2010-09-04 07:16:15

There is another thing that British Columbians can be doing to fight the HST and that is to STOP CONSUMING anything other than basic necessities. Send a clear message to restaurants and retail outlets that you won’t make any further purchases other than basic necessities until the HST issues are resolved.

Comment by admin
2010-09-04 08:12:11

Small to mid sized reasonably priced Restaurants and their employees are suffering along with the rest of us, how will ruining their business help get rid of the HST? It will certainly put smaller restaurants out of business but will not likely affect fancy high priced restaurants since those do not cater to the people that care if there is HST or not.

 
 
Comment by Quin
2010-09-06 18:59:07

It boggles my mind that the Government can get away with this… The problem is that those in power are all making upwards of $100,000.00 per year so they don’t think like the average joe… I guess they see us as slaves? I build the roads that their Ferrari’s drive on only to take the bus home and eat Kraft Dinner while they have a steak dinner at the Keg…

 
Comment by String
2010-09-08 15:13:40

I live in Ontario. HST sucks! I agree! Screw New World Financial Order. Save our soul!

 
Comment by Tom Holmes
2010-09-15 00:08:00

At the Keg… on government credit cards we pay for under the gise of expences????????

 
Comment by Lara Mckeown
2010-09-18 08:36:12

This hst is devasting to many peoples budget. Eliminating purchasing as much as possible. No tipping at all. Possible purchases now drive to alberta. considering moving to alberta or another country. No hope for our government or our way of life. I see a much larger recession happening in BC. The house prices in Whistler are dropping more than 25 % and except to drop more. If albertains have any money come buy up Whistler the jewel of BC. Much Fewer Jobs here. No more Whistler Blackcomb fall fairs. Whistler Blackcomb report only need 80 more employees this winter instead of 3000. A huge inventory of staff and employee housing on market, more home occupancy then ever. It is already too late! But no one will listen till our economy drops dead.

 
Comment by Darshan Banga
2011-01-25 03:15:55

Liberals have to pay really dearly for their deception on HST. We will choke them.

 
Comment by Steve Halliwell
2011-03-23 11:18:23

The HST must go. It epitomises all that is wrong with this and all governments. We all need to spend less not make more, why should our representatives not do the same for us a group. We are not a bottomless well.

 
Comment by Candice
2011-05-13 20:08:01

Regardless of what happens with the tax, what I would like is more transparency in regards to where our tax money goes. Is there anywhere I can go to find out how BC tax dollars were spent in 2010?

We need to start asking for a taxpayers receipt.

 
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